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Matt Pond PA Interview / 'Sweet and Dour' By Allan Martin Kemler

Five recordings of magnificently sad-eyed pop, a plain Columbian Supremo and a bottle of Vicks throat spray. It's another kind of logic entirely.

09/01/2002

Matt Pond band shot

I met Matt Pond, purveyor of stringed baroque pop, in a tiny oriental coffee shop called Ray’s in Philadelphia’s Chinatown on a cold evening in January. I had arrived first, so the young man behind the counter seated me and showed me a menu. I chose a plain Columbian Supremo and waited for Matt to show up. He did, but before that his drummer, Mike Kennedy, walked in and after exchanging glances, we slowly recognized each other from previous, vaguely drunken introductions and realized that we were there for the same reason.

Shortly afterwards, Matt showed up. He said he was sick and put down a bottle of Vicks throat spray on the table as he took off his coat and sat down. I told him I was curious about how he’d managed to make five recordings of magnificently sad-eyed pop sketched out in ornate detail by a cadre of cellos, violins, vibraphones and French horn without ever infringing on any discernible style of music. No country. No rock. No eclectic French pop. No folksy pining or whining. Instead, his songs have a sort of purity to them. A kind of internal logic that reveals itself in melody. He said he liked the word "pure", but it was his drummer who explained how the trick was done. “Matt uses these strange, made-up tunings that he invents himself, and I think that’s what makes the music have such a unique sound,” said Kennedy. “Because they’re so different, they force you to think about the structure of the music outside of what’s normal and that affects what you play.”

Sipping on a cup of Oolong tea from a ceramic mug, Pond explained how his new album the green fury (Polyvinyl) is just another step in the band’s musical evolution. Though at first glance much of Matt Pond PA’s music may seem a bit dour or even down-at-the-heels, what with its plaintive vocals and whispered melodies, after a few spins you begin to understand what Pond means when he describes, or rather defends, his music as "Saturday night music". It may not be Saturday night dance party music in the typical sense, but it does have a certain airy quality that could make you feel like anything’s possible, like you just have to get up and get out of your chair and go do something, anything.

But whether the band's music makes you want to stir things up or just stir a few cocktails and lay in bed, either way the effect is intentional.
“I did have an idea for the sound,” said Pond as he explained the band’s origin and pretext. “There’s two things I like. Well, there’s a few things... I don’t like guitar solos, I like some, but in general anyone who likes to write guitar solos a lot is not someone I can relate to. It’s fine for other people, but I’m such a retarded guitar player that...and then, like, I love French horns and strings. Just somehow incorporating the two I thought would really add backbone to what I wanted to do.

"And yeah, there is a sort of dour element just in having them, but I saw a few things I wanted to do. I wanted to do what I hadn’t done before or what I thought was missing.”

In between jokes about his childhood and growing up in New Hampshire, and his flat refusal to talk about his college years at Bard, Pond went on to explain how despite some success with his previous band, Mel’s Rockpile, he never felt comfortable doing the rock out-thing on stage or even with his own guitar playing. “It was like, ‘give the drunk five dollars and watch him do a funny dance,' ” recalled Pond.

Nevertheless, despite his fears, when the band broke up, Pond set out to find the elements he would later need to create the sound that would eventually make him feel confident on stage. That search yielded the beautifully nuanced and absurdly finessed playing found on the band’s first album Deer Apartments (Lancaster Records).

While only two members remain from that first album, the band’s sound has remarkably both stayed the same and evolved at the same time. Now, after spending so much time performing and recording with this current incarnation of the band, Pond said he’s ready to let go of his writing responsibilities and truly collaborate with the band that bears his name.

“The reason I feel so comfortable with the whole thing is because everybody is just so fucking good,” offered Pond. “It’s pretty cool. Now when I'm up there I don’t feel stupid anymore."

Photo by Chris Meck

Relevant Sites:
www.mattpondpa.com
www.polyvinylrecords.com

Allan Kemler for Crud Magazine© 2002




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