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TRACK BY TRACK - 'Little Black Numbers' ~ An Interview with Kathryn Williams

In a small room off her rehearsal studios in West London, Liverpool's quietly spoken Kathryn Williams gives Crud an exclusive track by track rundown of her Mercury Music Prize shortlisted album 'Little Black Numbers':
13/10/01

KATHRYN WILLIAMS


We Dug A Hole
"Well I wrote that on a day out with my friend Nev. When we recorded it I really wanted it to go a bit mad at the end so I got my sister and her husband in and they were really nervous being in a studio. The three of us just did about 10 takes messing around. But Mike got really into it and you can hear him singing 'warmer than Safeways' and 'warmer than Tescos', doing all these harmonies. I think he thought he was recording for 'Pet Sounds' or something. It's cheaper to use your family."

Soul To Feet
"I started writing that after I'd done a gig and there'd been a couple of A&R men come up to meet me. They'd come all the way up from London and then spent most of the time talking at the bar. I started writing it in my head that night and when I went over the next day I played them that song. If I've got a melody that I think is good I have to write it down then."

Stood
"That's one of the oldest songs on the album and I was going to put it on my first album, but I just couldn't get it right in the studio then. That was probably the first song I wrote that felt really rounded and whole and I couldn't believe that I'd written it."

Jasmine Hoop
"Usually with the songs, the words are the most important things for me to work around. But with that song the words aren't particularly the thing to look up to, it's all about the music and character being reflected. I wrote it by the window, looking out and seeing my reflection in it. So it's kind of all about memories and just internal things."

Fell Down Fast
"I've stopped playing that live, it's about my friend who died. It was a tribute to him, but I felt like I'd be kind of selling out if I continued playing it just because people were asking me to play it. I mean, I probably will play it again, just because it's nice to remember him by, but I don't want to play it just because it's a sad song and to make everyone cry. It just cheapens the memory."

Flicker
"I wrote that one when I was working as a waitress. I was a terrible waitress! So bad. And there was a queue of grannies wanting scones and I got the whole song in my head, it was so weird. So I ran to the toilet and wrote it all down on toilet paper and then sang it and recorded it when I got home. Most of the time I work really hard with my songs but that one just came to me, like bing!"

Intermission
"I just knew I wanted the album to have two sides, like an old vinyl. But I couldn't afford it. So I wrote intermission with the idea of someone getting up after falling asleep and turning the record over."

Tell The Truth As If It Were Lies
"Well, that's about a wanker that I used to know! It's really scathing and really horrible, the lyrics. I found that I could sing lyrics like that."

Morning Song
"That's about a girl I used to live with, she used to walk around in a G-string and vest top. And I really liked her, but she was just the most horrific person first thing in the morning. And I wanted to write a romantic song about someone who was really bad in the morning, and she was about the worst."

Toocan
"That was written about a year after 'Stood' and it's quite new, one of the newest on the album. I wrote that with a saxophonist that used to come around to my house, up in Newcastle. She had this melody she played and I worked out what the chords were and sang what was in my head and she said that was good. And that was it."

Each Star We See
"Oh God, I don't know what that's about…"

We Came Down From The Trees

"I wrote that with Laura (Reid, collaborator). I think I'd gone to a party, and I hate parties. I don't know why I go. I either end up in the back yard, the front yard or in the kitchen. Or stuck somewhere I don't want to be. So I started writing that and then I had an excuse to go home, so I did and wrote that."

Interview by James Berry for Crud Magazine© 2001

 
 
 
 

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